[Alt-photo] salted paper
Christina Z. Anderson
christinazanderson at gmail.com
Fri Apr 1 15:11:16 UTC 2016
A welcome diversion as I await a download PDF of my gum book corrections which in this hotel is telling me will take 6 hours…I think I need to go to a coffee shop.
I hear you; salt can be frustrating.
Yes I do attempt to be equal with the sizing and sensitizer and measure it out pretty rigorously.
If I brush size I make sure to use 1 tsp of the salting solution and then use 1 tsp of the silver nitrate. That way the 12% silver nitrate is 6x the amount of salting solution which is a 2%.
If I tray size, who knows how much is absorbed? I checked what was left from the size after soaking my papers, but that calculates what is absorbed throughout the entire paper so I don’t know how accurate that is (but it is not as much as I thought it would be). But so far with using 1 tsp of silver nitrate brushed on the face of an 8x10 print it has worked fine. As long as there is excess silver it seems good.
It is such a pleasure when you pull a print out of the light box and see that it is evenly exposed and deep eggplant EVERYWHERE.
What is your paper you are using? I have had best luck with the new HPR and Platine. I have had multiple problems with Bergger for some reason but my batch is older. I blame that on my technique completely but suffice it to say for starting out in salt I would recommend Platine over Bergger.
If you see areas of purple on the exposed print, it is not too little salt but moisture left in the print when exposed. Once I started getting the paper BONE dry before exposure that disappeared. I also dye my solution with blue food coloring to see it.
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Marek Matusz via Alt-photo-process-list <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:
> Not a big surprise I made a bunch of reject prints last night. So frustrating. I suspect that I simply do not have enough silver nitrate. Do u actually measure salting solution and silver nitrate. So for example do u use say 20 cc of salting solution per sheet and then use 20 cc of silver nitrate to sensitize?
> I am going to try more controlled approach with measuring solutions.
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Darryl Baird via Alt-photo-process-list <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:
>> Forgot to mention, but my process is published in Jill Enfield last book
>> on alt-processes. I don't have it in front of me, but it's a variation
>> based on the research of Ellie Young and uses potassium chloride... for
>> it's combination of speed and image color. I use 1500W metal halide UV
>> exposure unit made by Douhitt (Detroit).
>> On 2016-03-29 07:18, Christina Z. Anderson via Alt-photo-process-list
>>> What was it about albumen that wooed you away from salt?
>>> I haven't gone back to no-gelatin salt prints yet, but will revisit. I needed to get a body of work done that I liked or else I would have gone crazy so I settled on some constants.
>>> I have lots of potassium bromide on hand. Am I right in assuming it'd be a bromochloride print not a straight chloride, approaching gelatin silver? I've been using ammonium chloride in combination with sodium citrate.
>>> I haven't even gotten around to puzzling out Darryl Baird's issue of color consistency; he said he had a tough time getting a series to have a consistent image color even on the same paper because, if I remember correctly, the darker the actual original image the more the color would be different. I could be messing up his statement...
>>> I have found some unique color differences in exposure times (more yellow brown with less exposure red-brown with more) but haven't explored that question.
>>> With gold toning and salt the color is very neutral.
>>> I do like the warm reddish color best.
>>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Productions <productions at johnesimmons.com> wrote:
>>> Chris, If you get an urge to experiment further, I once tried Potassium Bromide as the salt, and you might want to give it a try. It gave a more black image color than sodium chloride and seemed to expose faster. IIRC, I simply painted it onto some Arches Platine or something similar with no gelatin. I got involved in albumen and never tried further experiments with KBr. juan -----Original Message----- From: Alt-photo-process-list [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf Of Christina Z. Anderson via Alt-photo-process-list Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:38 AM To: Alt List Cc: Christina Z. Anderson Subject: Re: [Alt-photo] salted paper Thank you, Jorj and Loris, for reading and enjoying! I've always loved the troubleshooting sections of alt books, but in the old texts there were never any accompanying pictures. That is what is so nice about the web and digital today (and books produced by huge digitally run presses) is that we can illustrate o
>> mistakes in color without having to pay big bucks for 4-color presswork. My guess is that all of us who have gotten somewhere in alt have a pile of reject prints, and if I didn't get excited about a reject print because it would be an illustration I'd be miserable along my journey. Chris On Mar 29, 2016, at 5:26 AM, Jorj Bauer <jorj at jorj.org> wrote: I love how you keep it real, Chris! Do not go outside between exposures and sunbathe on the first nice day since Nam, because that sun will find every splatter of silver nitrate on your hands, arms, and clothes and turn it a beautiful chocolate and very permanent brown
>> I did almost exactly that a few years ago when trying to demonstrate
>> salt prints at a late August party. Fortunately the gin and tonics made
>> up for the splotchyness (and terrible salt prints). -- Jorj Sent from my
>> iPhone On Mar 28, 2016, at 09:37, Christina Z. Anderson via
>> Alt-photo-process-list <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
>>> Dear All, In case you are interested and not on FB, here is a link to my continuing salt saga with more images of great mistakes and answers from some of the illustrious few, and a link to a portfolio of salted paper work. It's been a fun, somewhat frustrating, journey, but immersing myself in salted paper for a solid six weeks has been quite the learning experience. I bet I have made every possible mistake in the book. I've gone from Julia Child, dropping the chicken on the floor, to Martha Stewart, decorating cookies with a pipette. As I said on FB, I ran out of silver over the weekend and switched to gum printing and I'm telling you, going back to gum is a piece of cake! (I am testing Hahnemühle and gum now.) Chris http://christinaanderson.visualserver.com/Text_page.cfm?pID=6523  _______________________________________________ Alt-photo-process-list | altphotolist.org
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