[Alt-photo] Alt-photo-process-list Digest, Vol 103, Issue 2

Marek Matusz marekmatusz at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 6 00:40:30 UTC 2016


Order it from Talas. They did a great job packing it. 

Marek

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> On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Jeannie Hutchins via Alt-photo-process-list <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone!  You’re the best!   
> 
> The little  π symbol is precisely under the "A" in Platine on both my old and (NOT) new paper.   I'll order some real new and hopefully  have more acceptable results.
> 
> Jeannie
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> Today's Topics:
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>   1.  New Platine (Jeannie Hutchins)
>   2. Re:  New Platine (Denny)
>   3. Re:  New Platine (Diana Bloomfield)
>   4. Re:  New Platine (Diana Bloomfield)
>   5. Re:  New Platine (Paul Viapiano)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 20:04:58 -0400
> From: "Jeannie Hutchins" <hutchinsjeannie at gmail.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
> Subject: [Alt-photo] New Platine
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> Hi Folks,
> 
> 
> 
> I just did some tri color gum printing on what I thought was NEW Platine.
> Diana Bloomfield had commented that she didn't think shrinking or sizing/ hardening was necessarily necessary so I was very eager to experiment to see
> what I could do.  Indeed,   I didn't experience much shrinking but staining
> was higher than expected for my images.
> 
> 
> 
> So,  perhaps I have the old Platine.  Diana had said her NEW Platine had the little symbol under the P.  My watermark has the little symbol under the A not the P,  and that is also how it is on the website.
> (http://www.arches-papers.com/our-papers/arches-platine/). Can anyone help me clarify where the NEW Platine's little symbol is?  (Red Herring?)  My new paper is whiter than the old Platine so I think it is new,  but I'm not thrilled with its behavior with tri color gum,  so I'm skeptical.
> 
> Though not an expert by any means,  I do have some sense on what I consider acceptable and tolerable staining with the pigments I use (usually on glyoxal hardened paper).  I don't particularly like PVA-sized images and I am eager to get away from glyoxal hardening.  If anyone has pigment suggestions that are working well on the NEW Platine,  I'd appreciate your input.  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jeannie Hutchins
> 
> Jeannie Hutchins
> 
> 42 William Glen Dr.
> 
> Camden, ME   04843
> 
> 
> 
> 207 470 0445
> 
> hutchinsjeannie at gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> Photography:  www.JeannieHutchins.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:12:26 -0700
> From: "Denny" <dspector at charter.net>
> To: <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Alt-photo] New Platine
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> Jeannie,
> 
> The new symbol is a Pi.  I've also been trying the new Platine for gum over platinum and I'm seeing some unusual staining.  I've got a series of tests lined up to try to find out what's causing the problem (it might not be the paper, maybe just my fault.) I'll keep you informed if I learn anything.
> 
> Denny
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alt-photo-process-list [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf Of Jeannie Hutchins via Alt-photo-process-list
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 5:05 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Cc: Jeannie Hutchins
> Subject: [Alt-photo] New Platine
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> 
> 
> I just did some tri color gum printing on what I thought was NEW Platine.
> Diana Bloomfield had commented that she didn't think shrinking or sizing/ hardening was necessarily necessary so I was very eager to experiment to see
> what I could do.  Indeed,   I didn't experience much shrinking but staining
> was higher than expected for my images.
> 
> 
> 
> So,  perhaps I have the old Platine.  Diana had said her NEW Platine had the little symbol under the P.  My watermark has the little symbol under the A not the P,  and that is also how it is on the website.
> (http://www.arches-papers.com/our-papers/arches-platine/). Can anyone help me clarify where the NEW Platine's little symbol is?  (Red Herring?)  My new paper is whiter than the old Platine so I think it is new,  but I'm not thrilled with its behavior with tri color gum,  so I'm skeptical.
> 
> Though not an expert by any means,  I do have some sense on what I consider acceptable and tolerable staining with the pigments I use (usually on glyoxal hardened paper).  I don't particularly like PVA-sized images and I am eager to get away from glyoxal hardening.  If anyone has pigment suggestions that are working well on the NEW Platine,  I'd appreciate your input.  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jeannie Hutchins
> 
> Jeannie Hutchins
> 
> 42 William Glen Dr.
> 
> Camden, ME   04843
> 
> 
> 
> 207 470 0445
> 
> hutchinsjeannie at gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> Photography:  www.JeannieHutchins.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 20:15:50 -0400
> From: Diana Bloomfield <dlhbloomfield at gmail.com>
> To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list
>    <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Alt-photo] New Platine
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> Hi Jeannie,
> 
> If you experienced staining, you definitely had the old Platine.  That new symbol, which is the only way I've been able to ensure that it's the new
> Platine-- is directly under the P.  The old Platine did have another symbol
> elsewhere-- but this one is under the P, and it's small.  To me, this new little symbol looks like an F (as in France, maybe) laying on it's side-- just turn it to the right.  Some people say it looks like π symbol-- but it's closer to this F symbol, turned clockwise once to the right.  Talas in NY does sell it, which you can order online.  My local Jerry's has it,
> but-- as I've said before-- I can go in the store, look at the loose sheets on the shelf, and check the watermark.  The only reason I know Talas has the new Arches, is because I called and asked.  I think Marek ordered from them recently, and he did get the new version.
> 
> I cannot make attachments here, but I will send you an email of the tricolor gum prints (up to 8 layers) I've made on this new Platine.  I'm kind of picky about staining, too. I don't much tolerate it myself. :)
> 
> Diana
> 
> *dhbloomfield.com <http://dhbloomfield.com>*
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Jeannie Hutchins via Alt-photo-process-list <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just did some tri color gum printing on what I thought was NEW Platine.
>> Diana Bloomfield had commented that she didn't think shrinking or 
>> sizing/ hardening was necessarily necessary so I was very eager to 
>> experiment to see
>> what I could do.  Indeed,   I didn't experience much shrinking but staining
>> was higher than expected for my images.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So,  perhaps I have the old Platine.  Diana had said her NEW Platine 
>> had the little symbol under the P.  My watermark has the little symbol 
>> under the A not the P,  and that is also how it is on the website.
>> (http://www.arches-papers.com/our-papers/arches-platine/). Can anyone 
>> help me clarify where the NEW Platine's little symbol is?  (Red 
>> Herring?)  My new paper is whiter than the old Platine so I think it 
>> is new,  but I'm not thrilled with its behavior with tri color gum,  
>> so I'm skeptical.
>> 
>> Though not an expert by any means,  I do have some sense on what I 
>> consider acceptable and tolerable staining with the pigments I use 
>> (usually on glyoxal hardened paper).  I don't particularly like 
>> PVA-sized images and I am eager to get away from glyoxal hardening.  
>> If anyone has pigment suggestions that are working well on the NEW 
>> Platine,  I'd appreciate your input.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Jeannie Hutchins
>> 
>> Jeannie Hutchins
>> 
>> 42 William Glen Dr.
>> 
>> Camden, ME   04843
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 207 470 0445
>> 
>> hutchinsjeannie at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Photography:  www.JeannieHutchins.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Alt-photo-process-list | altphotolist.org
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 20:18:53 -0400
> From: Diana Bloomfield <dlhbloomfield at gmail.com>
> To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list
>    <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Alt-photo] New Platine
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> 
> So odd.  I forgot to add that if you go on my website, under the 'How it Works' page, I do have 3 prints shown on there, scroll to the bottom-- same
> image-- all done on the new Arches Platine (one in cyanotype; one in cyanotype over pt/pd; the 3rd in tricolor gum).  I can't tell you how much I love this paper.  Really strange.  I hope they haven't screwed it up already. :)
> 
> Diana
> *dhbloomfield.com <http://dhbloomfield.com>*
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Denny via Alt-photo-process-list < alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Jeannie,
>> 
>> The new symbol is a Pi.  I've also been trying the new Platine for gum 
>> over platinum and I'm seeing some unusual staining.  I've got a series 
>> of tests lined up to try to find out what's causing the problem (it 
>> might not be the paper, maybe just my fault.) I'll keep you informed 
>> if I learn anything.
>> 
>> Denny
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alt-photo-process-list [mailto:
>> alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Jeannie Hutchins via Alt-photo-process-list
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 5:05 PM
>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>> Cc: Jeannie Hutchins
>> Subject: [Alt-photo] New Platine
>> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just did some tri color gum printing on what I thought was NEW Platine.
>> Diana Bloomfield had commented that she didn't think shrinking or 
>> sizing/ hardening was necessarily necessary so I was very eager to experiment to see
>> what I could do.  Indeed,   I didn't experience much shrinking but staining
>> was higher than expected for my images.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So,  perhaps I have the old Platine.  Diana had said her NEW Platine 
>> had the little symbol under the P.  My watermark has the little symbol 
>> under the A not the P,  and that is also how it is on the website.
>> (http://www.arches-papers.com/our-papers/arches-platine/). Can anyone 
>> help me clarify where the NEW Platine's little symbol is?  (Red 
>> Herring?) My new paper is whiter than the old Platine so I think it is 
>> new,  but I'm not thrilled with its behavior with tri color gum,  so I'm skeptical.
>> 
>> Though not an expert by any means,  I do have some sense on what I 
>> consider acceptable and tolerable staining with the pigments I use 
>> (usually on glyoxal hardened paper).  I don't particularly like 
>> PVA-sized images and I am eager to get away from glyoxal hardening.  
>> If anyone has pigment suggestions that are working well on the NEW 
>> Platine,  I'd appreciate your input.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Jeannie Hutchins
>> 
>> Jeannie Hutchins
>> 
>> 42 William Glen Dr.
>> 
>> Camden, ME   04843
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 207 470 0445
>> 
>> hutchinsjeannie at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Photography:  www.JeannieHutchins.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Alt-photo-process-list | altphotolist.org
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:21:14 -0700
> From: Paul Viapiano <viapiano at pacbell.net>
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: Re: [Alt-photo] New Platine
> Message-ID: <FC4981CF-27BC-4918-ABD7-63474B41825F at pacbell.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Man...Diana, you are doing some good work...!!!
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Diana Bloomfield via Alt-photo-process-list <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> So odd.  I forgot to add that if you go on my website, under the 'How 
>> it Works' page, I do have 3 prints shown on there, scroll to the 
>> bottom-- same
>> image-- all done on the new Arches Platine (one in cyanotype; one in 
>> cyanotype over pt/pd; the 3rd in tricolor gum).  I can't tell you how 
>> much I love this paper.  Really strange.  I hope they haven't screwed 
>> it up already. :)
>> 
>> Diana
>> *dhbloomfield.com <http://dhbloomfield.com>*
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Denny via Alt-photo-process-list < 
>> alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jeannie,
>>> 
>>> The new symbol is a Pi.  I've also been trying the new Platine for 
>>> gum over platinum and I'm seeing some unusual staining.  I've got a 
>>> series of tests lined up to try to find out what's causing the 
>>> problem (it might not be the paper, maybe just my fault.) I'll keep 
>>> you informed if I learn anything.
>>> 
>>> Denny
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alt-photo-process-list [mailto:
>>> alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Jeannie Hutchins via Alt-photo-process-list
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 5:05 PM
>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>> Cc: Jeannie Hutchins
>>> Subject: [Alt-photo] New Platine
>>> 
>>> Hi Folks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just did some tri color gum printing on what I thought was NEW Platine.
>>> Diana Bloomfield had commented that she didn't think shrinking or 
>>> sizing/ hardening was necessarily necessary so I was very eager to experiment to see
>>> what I could do.  Indeed,   I didn't experience much shrinking but staining
>>> was higher than expected for my images.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So,  perhaps I have the old Platine.  Diana had said her NEW Platine 
>>> had the little symbol under the P.  My watermark has the little 
>>> symbol under the A not the P,  and that is also how it is on the website.
>>> (http://www.arches-papers.com/our-papers/arches-platine/). Can anyone 
>>> help me clarify where the NEW Platine's little symbol is?  (Red 
>>> Herring?) My new paper is whiter than the old Platine so I think it 
>>> is new,  but I'm not thrilled with its behavior with tri color gum,  so I'm skeptical.
>>> 
>>> Though not an expert by any means,  I do have some sense on what I 
>>> consider acceptable and tolerable staining with the pigments I use 
>>> (usually on glyoxal hardened paper).  I don't particularly like 
>>> PVA-sized images and I am eager to get away from glyoxal hardening.  
>>> If anyone has pigment suggestions that are working well on the NEW 
>>> Platine,  I'd appreciate your input.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Jeannie Hutchins
>>> 
>>> Jeannie Hutchins
>>> 
>>> 42 William Glen Dr.
>>> 
>>> Camden, ME   04843
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 207 470 0445
>>> 
>>> hutchinsjeannie at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Photography:  www.JeannieHutchins.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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