[Alt-photo] good little book

bobkiss caribsurf.com bobkiss at caribsurf.com
Sat Aug 26 15:30:29 UTC 2017


Kewel!

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Check at abebooks.com for a particular photo book (old) and see where the bookseller is and you’ll see the India bookstore pop up. 
I always check where the bookseller is because of shipping charges because once I didn’t and got really reamed with a book I bought for cheap from the UK and the shipping was greater than the book price.It was a really stupid mistake on all counts.
Chris

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 9:10 AM, bobkiss caribsurf.com <bobkiss at caribsurf.com> wrote:
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> DEAR CHRIS,
> 
>     Are you willing to share the contact info for that Indian scanner/re-printer?
> 
>                    CHEERS!
>                          BOB
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> Dick,
> 
> Are there any rules/laws on whether or not we can put these downloadable books available to the public as you have in Dropbox? I have so many wonderful ones I’d like to make available but don’t know if that is against any policy of Google’s or whatnot.
> 
> The non-OCR issue is a real problem but I have got around it by making the text “editable” in Adobe Acrobat and then it is searchable. But it does take time.
> 
> The ability to search all my old book PDFS at one fell swoop for one particular word or name is unbelievable today. 
> 
> I find it easier to download PDFS on Google and do all research at the computer than to go to the rare books libraries anymore. 
> 
> Last year I visited both Mertle Rare Books in Minneapolis (incredible collection!) and Eastman House while researching for salted paper and the rare books at Mertle were being completely reorganized or some such thing and I couldn’t get a single book except for the ones on the regular bookshelves. Eastman House Library hours are so ridiculously minimal, for out of towners you’d have to stay there for weeks at great expense to be able to do the necessary research. If I lived in Rochester, then great, but I don’t. I sympathize with Eastman because I think Kodak no longer funds the Museum there, but still, the library should be much more accessible. And actually these libraries seem to be going the way of collaborating with Google to scan all the old books as one librarian there told me.
> 
> Google has been a life saver for me with Salted Paper whereas my other three books were completely researched at physical libraries at great expense.
> 
> I remember when I first heard about Google’s plan to scan every existing book. I was horrified. Now I am a big proponent for historical literature no longer under copyright.
> 
> One other source I found through abebooks.com is some company in India that does all these book scannings and prints them out with colored covers and such and then sells them as physical copies. The funny part is that the books are like, $3.56 or $8.92 or some such weird price and, get this, a lot are shipped for free! I have actually done well with them except for one copy that had the page numbers cut off so I couldn’t source correctly. But why, of all places, has India decided to scan old photo texts?
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Richard Sullivan <sullivan8486 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's also available on my site here:https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ffjefbtfnxfypjk/AACc71mBSZrdxAnWmm7iqeUia?dl=0 <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ffjefbtfnxfypjk/AACc71mBSZrdxAnWmm7iqeUia?dl=0>
>> The archive.org <http://archive.org/> one is a mess. Too many layers and not ocr'd this one is cleaned up and searchable. 
>> There is also a rare copy of Marcus Sparlings book on printing, just called photographic art at the time but basically is a very complete book on salt printing, in scientific detail. Sparling as we all know was Roger Fenton's Assistant in the Crimea. He's the guy sitting up on the van darkroom with the reins in his hands. 
>> https://www.loc.gov/item/2001697111/ <https://www.loc.gov/item/2001697111/>
>> --Dick
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Christina Z. Anderson via Alt-photo-process-list <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org <mailto:alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>> wrote:
>> Good Morning,
>> I always check books’ bibliographies when I am researching, and I found this book mentioned.
>> Brown, George E. Ferric and Heliographic Processes: A Handbook for Photographers, Draughtsmen, and Sun Printers. New York: Tennant & Ward, 1900 [First edition 1900, reprinted 1905, this edition n.d.)
>> I found it on Abebooks:
>> https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&an=&tn=Ferric+and+Heliographic+Processes%3A+A+Handbook+for+Photographers%2C+Draughtsmen%2C+and+Sun+Printers&kn=&isbn= <https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&an=&tn=Ferric+and+Heliographic+Processes%3A+A+Handbook+for+Photographers%2C+Draughtsmen%2C+and+Sun+Printers&kn=&isbn=> <https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&an=&tn=Ferric+and+Heliographic+Processes:+A+Handbook+for+Photographers,+Draughtsmen,+and+Sun+Printers&kn=&isbn= <https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&an=&tn=Ferric+and+Heliographic+Processes:+A+Handbook+for+Photographers,+Draughtsmen,+and+Sun+Printers&kn=&isbn=>>
>> It’s under $10, a reprint/facsimile of the original that is well done.
>> Chapters are on cyanotype, kallitype obernetter, uranotype, Pellet process, ferro-gallic, etc. What is interesting is there is a small section on tricolor gum over cyanotype under the chapter entitled Ferro-Prussiate in Tricolor Work (go figure) and a W. E. Brewerton medalled at the RPS’s exhibition of 1898!
>> Has anyone seen his tricolor work in person?
>> Chris
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