[Alt-photo] digital neg drying

Kerik Kouklis kerik at kerik.com
Sun May 7 20:33:22 UTC 2017


It does not stick, but it prints differently. The neg prints with more
density wherever the ink is heaviest and not completely dry. The solvent or
whatever is drying from the neg adds density.

-Kerik
www.kerik.com

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 1:28 PM Bob Cornelis via Alt-photo-process-list <
alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:

> Thanks Marek
>
> I think I had also heard something about the "milkiness" of the neg
> disappearing - I'll watch for that. To your knowledge, does that affect how
> the neg prints or is it just related to the dryness of the neg (so it won't
> stick and get ruined)? Seems like that could affect final density of the
> print.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Marek Matusz via Alt-photo-process-list <
> alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:
>
> > Ha
> > In a pinch I put my oven on and heat it just so then turn it off and
> stick
> > the negative there. I judge dryness when the milky part in the highest
> ink
> > density disappears. Maybe 15 min. Make sure u out it face up on a clean
> > piece of baking sheet and paper
> > Marek
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On May 7, 2017, at 3:02 PM, David Christensen via
> Alt-photo-process-list
> > <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Perhaps to sharper eyes than mine but I can't say I've noticed any
> > difference in the final carbon print whether I've dried the negative
> > overnight or after five minutes. I live in a dry climate and the RH is
> > pretty consistent throughout the year - if I remember to do it, I try to
> > print the digital negative the day before- just to be on the safe side.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 2017-05-07 1:48 PM, `Richard Knoppow via Alt-photo-process-list
> > wrote:
> > >>   I am not familiar enough with the material used for digital
> negatives
> > but if its anything like conventional film you want to avoid drying it
> too
> > fast.  I assume its the ink that needs to be dried. Bob lives where the
> RH
> > is mostly pretty high so some warming of the air will help drying. In Los
> > Angeles the RH varies all over the place from tropical to desert. When we
> > have our driest weather I have had roll film dry in ten minutes just
> > hanging up. When it gets humid, as it is now, it may take many hours.
> > >>
> > >>> On 5/7/2017 12:33 PM, Bob Cornelis via Alt-photo-process-list wrote:
> > >>> David
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for sharing your experience.
> > >>>
> > >>> I was also curious if the only criteria for the neg being ready to
> use
> > is
> > >>> that it not stick to the coated paper or if there are other qualities
> > that
> > >>> change over time that can make a difference.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any thoughts?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Bob
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM, David Christensen via
> > >>> Alt-photo-process-list <
> alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Bob - I've been printing digital negs on a 1430 using Pictorico
> Ultra
> > and
> > >>>> Piezography inks.  After about five minutes, I use a hairdryer on a
> > low
> > >>>> cool/warm setting and move it over the neg about 10 inches away for
> > three
> > >>>> minutes.  I've had no problems with the neg sticking to the carbon
> > tissue
> > >>>> I'm using.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> David
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 2017-05-07 11:13 AM, Bob Cornelis via Alt-photo-process-list
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I usually try to let my digital negs sit overnight to "cure" but
> > >>>>> sometimes,
> > >>>>> especially when doing a lot of testing, that is really
> inconvenient.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> How long have you found you need to let negs sit before using them
> > without
> > >>>>> adverse consequences?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I've sometimes used a hair dryer on the back of the negs, but I
> have
> > no
> > >>>>> idea how long to do that or if there is some sign that the neg is
> > ready
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>> use when accelerating the process that way.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm using an Epson 11880 on Pictorico Ultra film with both QTR
> > (pt/pd) and
> > >>>>> straight driver (cyanotype).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>> Bob
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
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