[Alt-photo] Alt-photo-process-list Digest, Vol 277, Issue 4

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>   1.  Reply: Losing DMax in Kallitype prints (ROBERT KISS)
>   2.  Losing Dmax in Kallitypes (George L Smyth)
>   3. Re:  Losing Dmax in Kallitypes (francis schanberger)
>   4. Re:  Reply: Losing DMax in Kallitype prints (George L Smyth)
>   5. Re:  Reply: Losing DMax in Kallitype prints (Jorj Bauer)
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> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 17:09:59 -0400 (AST)
> From: ROBERT KISS <bobkiss at caribsurf.com>
> To: George L Smyth <glsmyth at yahoo.com>,
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> Subject: [Alt-photo] Reply: Losing DMax in Kallitype prints
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> DEAR GEORGE,
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>     I think you might want to ask your question below of  the Alt Photo Email list.  I have no experience whatsoever with Kallitype.  I love the look of them but have never tried them.  There are many on the list who can help you.
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>                   CHEERS!
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>                            BOB
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> On September 3, 2020 at 4:53 PM George L Smyth <glsmyth at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I made a number of Kallitype prints about 8 months ago, toning them with platinum.  Things worked well (though I need to adjust my digital negative curve just a bit).  For the past couple of weeks I have been trying to make Kallitype prints but the DMax just is not there.  It is hard for me to imagine that the platinum toner is going bad after less than a year but perhaps that might be the case?
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> I am using the same paper, the chemistry I am using is freshly mixed and I am using it one-shot.  I am out of ideas as to what might be keeping my DMax from being what I got 8 months ago.
> 
> Any ideas as to what I should check?
> 
> Thanks -
> 
> george
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> From: George L Smyth <glsmyth at yahoo.com>
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> Subject: [Alt-photo] Losing Dmax in Kallitypes
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> I made a number of Kallitype prints about 8 months ago, toning them with platinum.? Things worked well (though I need to adjust my digital negative curve just a bit).? For the past couple of weeks I have been trying to make Kallitype prints but the DMax just is not there.? It is hard for me to imagine that the platinum toner is going bad after less than a year but perhaps that might be the case?
> I am using the same paper, the chemistry I am using is freshly mixed and I am using it one-shot.? I am out of ideas as to what might be keeping my DMax from being what I got 8 months ago.
> Any ideas as to what I should check?
> 
> Thanks -
> george
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> Handmade Photographic Images: http://www.GLSmyth.comBlog: http://GLSmyth.wordpress.com
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> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 17:32:04 -0400
> From: francis schanberger <frangst at gmail.com>
> To: George L Smyth <glsmyth at yahoo.com>,
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> Subject: Re: [Alt-photo] Losing Dmax in Kallitypes
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> I was printing and toning VDB with Palladium about 10 years ago. I
> definitely noted that the toner didn?t keep like I had used up the
> palladium . I had a lot of dark ground in the prints. Francis
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>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 5:22 PM George L Smyth via Alt-photo-process-list <
>> alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org> wrote:
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>> I made a number of Kallitype prints about 8 months ago, toning them with
>> platinum.  Things worked well (though I need to adjust my digital negative
>> curve just a bit).  For the past couple of weeks I have been trying to make
>> Kallitype prints but the DMax just is not there.  It is hard for me to
>> imagine that the platinum toner is going bad after less than a year but
>> perhaps that might be the case?
>> 
>> I am using the same paper, the chemistry I am using is freshly mixed and I
>> am using it one-shot.  I am out of ideas as to what might be keeping my
>> DMax from being what I got 8 months ago.
>> 
>> Any ideas as to what I should check?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks -
>> 
>> george
>> 
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>> http://GLSmyth.wordpress.com
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> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 21:33:47 +0000 (UTC)
> From: George L Smyth <glsmyth at yahoo.com>
> To: ROBERT KISS <bobkiss at caribsurf.com>,
>    "alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org"
>    <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>,  Jorj Bauer
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> Subject: Re: [Alt-photo] Reply: Losing DMax in Kallitype prints
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> If it's the toner then that would be good/bad news - I would find the problem but then I'm out about 650ml of toner. (g)? I guess the only way to know for sure would be to buy more platinum and find out.? I do have some 1% gold so I could mix some of that up to see how well/poorly that might work.? Which gold toner formula do you use?
> I use distilled water to mix all of my chemistry, and the wash before and after clearing is done by swishing a bit of distilled water in the pan, so I am thinking that the pH should be okay.
> george
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>    On Thursday, September 3, 2020, 05:27:36 PM EDT, Jorj Bauer <jorj at jorj.org> wrote:  
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> I?d suspect the toner. I usually gold tone my Kallitypes and that toner definitely does not last.
> 
> But assuming it?s not the toner - has the pH of any of your solutions changed? IIRC density is affected by pH of the sensitizer pretty easily.
> 
> ? j
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 17:27:21 -0400
> From: Jorj Bauer <jorj at jorj.org>
> To: George L Smyth <glsmyth at yahoo.com>, ROBERT KISS
>    <bobkiss at caribsurf.com>, alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: Re: [Alt-photo] Reply: Losing DMax in Kallitype prints
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> I?d suspect the toner. I usually gold tone my Kallitypes and that toner definitely does not last.
> 
> But assuming it?s not the toner - has the pH of any of your solutions changed? IIRC density is affected by pH of the sensitizer pretty easily.
> 
> ? j
>> On Sep 3, 2020, 5:10 PM -0400, ROBERT KISS via Alt-photo-process-list <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>, wrote:
>> DEAR GEORGE,
>> 
>> I think you might want to ask your question below of the Alt Photo Email list. I have no experience whatsoever with Kallitype. I love the look of them but have never tried them. There are many on the list who can help you.
>> 
>> CHEERS!
>> 
>> BOB
>> 
>> 
>> On September 3, 2020 at 4:53 PM George L Smyth <glsmyth at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I made a number of Kallitype prints about 8 months ago, toning them with platinum. Things worked well (though I need to adjust my digital negative curve just a bit). For the past couple of weeks I have been trying to make Kallitype prints but the DMax just is not there. It is hard for me to imagine that the platinum toner is going bad after less than a year but perhaps that might be the case?
>> 
>> 
>> I am using the same paper, the chemistry I am using is freshly mixed and I am using it one-shot. I am out of ideas as to what might be keeping my DMax from being what I got 8 months ago.
>> 
>> Any ideas as to what I should check?
>> 
>> Thanks -
>> 
>> george
>> 
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>> Handmade Photographic Images: http://www.GLSmyth.com
>> Blog: http://GLSmyth.wordpress.com
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