[Frameworks] science film query

Tony Conrad conrad at buffalo.edu
Tue Dec 28 22:01:55 CST 2010

While teaching film at Antioch College in the '70s I rented and showed a series
of demonstration films produced at Ohio State. These were unusually simple and
elegant silent documents of key physics experiments, covering (and displaying)
such things as double slit interference, cryogenics, etc. Each film was under
400' of color. I don't know if any of these beautiful films remains anywhere.
Don't neglect the inimitable "Microcultural Incidents at Ten Zoos," the Milgram
experiment documentary, etc... which I'm sure you've already obtained.
One of my personal faves is the mindbending "Not Knot" (animated math video). 


On Tue 12/28/10  9:15 PM , craig baldwin othercine at hotmail.com sent:
> Serge, Tho you probably already know about it, I should anyway
> remind you of Marina McDougall and Andy Bellows' excellent Brico
> Press volume on Jean Painleve: "Science Is Fiction".And while I have
> you on the line, so to speak, and with all due respect, I must say
> your claim that you (or most any one really) have tracked down all
> commercially available films on science (maybe I don't understand
> this part) seems, well, rather preposterous on the face of it! 
> Craig Baldwin 
> -------------------------
> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 19:46:51 -0600
> From: lestimides at gmail.com
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: [Frameworks] science film query
> Hello FWs -
> I am trying to put together a proposal for a course in film history,
> dealing primarily with the evolution of science/research and
> educational film. Plenty has been written on the general history of
> these relatively marginal genres - especially on their origins (i.e.
> on Muybridge, Marey, etc.) - but I wonder if anyone has done work on
> any kind of cross-breeding between sci/research/edu film and
> experimental film (or even arthouse film). 
> Jean Painlevé is the only one coming to mind who could be said to
> straddle both domains. A few of Peter Greenaway's films (particularly
> A Zed and Two Noughts) borrow some themes/techniques from research
> film - in this case time-lapse cinematography.
> (At the risk of saddling Tony Conrad with another string of
> inanities) I'd love to get some input - both in terms of artistic
> films that reference the sci/research/edu genres and books/articles
> that deal with such borrowing. I expect borrowing in the other
> direction took place as well, but that may be a good deal harder to
> trace.
> Also - on the off chance that someone on the list knows of major
> repositories of sci/research/edu films - I mean archives, museums,
> hospitals, etc. - from all eras, I would love to hear about it as
> well. I think I have tracked down the majority of commercially
> available films.
> Many many thanks for reading and giving some thought to the matter.
> happy holidays, and best regards
> serge
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