[Frameworks] films using the optical printer

Mariya Nikiforova mariya at radonlake.com
Thu Aug 7 18:57:43 UTC 2014


Alexandre Larose - Ville Marie (2011)
https://www.filmfestivalrotterdam.com/en/films/ville-marie/


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:36 PM, <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net> wrote:

> that´s correct. she used the lfmc Debrie machine that is still in use at
> No.w.here. Nicky.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: director at lift.on.ca
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> Sent: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:02
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer
>
>  And while we're at it... my understanding was that Annabel Nicholson's
> Slides (also mentioned in this series of posts) was actually made on a
> contact printer, sliding pieces of film along at different speeds. I think
> her piece would be particularly hard to do in an optical printer, because
> its so fluid.
>
> Chris
>
>
> > In the same spirit as Mark's post, I wanted to note that Peter
> > Tscherkassky's "Cinemascope trilogy" is actually contact printed in short
> > stretches (much of it using a laser pointer) rather than optically
> > printed.  He must surely have used an optical printer in some of his films
> > (maybe "Happy End," for ex.), but since the previous poster only dropped
> > his name without specific films, I thought it was a point worth
> > clarifying...
> >
> > R.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: FrameWorks [frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of
> > Mark Toscano [fiddybop at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:04 PM
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer
> >
> > Baillie's CASTRO STREET has no optical printing in it.  It's all in-camera
> > matting or A/B/C lab printing.
> >
> > Also, it periodically needs to be said that Pat O'Neill's 7362 has NO
> > optical printing in it whatsoever.  It's all contact printing and
> > hand-processing.  A lot of people tend to talk about Pat's optical work,
> > then show 7362 as an example in both public screenings and classes (sorry
> > Jason!).  Pat's first foray into optical printing came approximately two
> > years later in his installation piece SCREEN (1969), and then with RUNS
> > GOOD, etc. after that.
> >
> > That said, Pat is, as has already been said, an unparalleled artist in the
> > medium, and though optical printing was for him merely a technological
> > tool for achieving quite advanced aesthetic ideals, he is unsurpassed in
> > his artful and visionary use of the thing.  Probably the most convenient
> > and exemplary short film of his for explaining, demonstrating, or teaching
> > optical printing work is SAUGUS SERIES, which in some ways functions as
> > both a notebook of incredible visual ideas pretty much without precedent,
> > and an unintentional compendium of highly diverse suggestive uses for the
> > optical printer.  But you pretty much can't go wrong with ANYTHING Pat's
> > made.
> >
> > Mark Toscano
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Stefan Grabowski
> > <stefan at radonlake.com<mailto:stefan at radonlake.com <stefan at radonlake.com?>>> wrote:
> > Bruce Baillie's 'Castro Street' has some really beautiful optical printing
> > work.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: bigmuddy2005 at hotmail.com<mailto:bigmuddy2005 at hotmail.com <bigmuddy2005 at hotmail.com?>>
> > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:32:24 -0600
> > To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com?>>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer
> >
> > This is a great list! Barbara Hammer would be a good addition
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:29 PM, "Jason Halprin"
> > <jihalprin at gmail.com<mailto:jihalprin at gmail.com <jihalprin at gmail.com?>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Carolyn,
> >
> > Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing
> > at Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest
> > example of Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is
> > available for purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that it
> > was amazing to take the prints of his work and view them on rewinds with a
> > light table so that students could really study how he created his
> > "looks". I love Water and Power too, and usually saved it until the last
> > class in the semester.
> > -Jason Halprin
> >
> >
> > DAILY SCHEDULE
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 01 – January 25th
> >
> > Screening:       Pas de deux (Norman McLaren, 13 min, 1968)
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 02- February 1st
> >
> > Screening:       Passage à l'acte (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1993)
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 03- February 8th
> >
> > Screening:       Piece Touche (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1989)
> >                         Zocalo (Richard Myers, 15 min, 1972)
> >                         Spitting Image (Paula Froehle, 3 min., 1992)
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 04- February 15th
> >
> > Screeing:         7362 (Pat O’Neill, 10 min, 1967)
> >                         Roseblood (Sharon Couzin, 7 min., 1974)
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 05- February 22nd
> >
> >
> > Screening:       Watersmith (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1969)
> >
> >                         Film Wipe Film (Paul Glabicki, 32 min, 1984)
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 06
> >
> > Screening:       Wild Gunman (Craig Baldwin, 20 min, 1978)
> >                         Television Assassination (Bruce Conner, 14 min,
> > 1964/95)
> >                         Cosmic Ray (Bruce Conner, 4 min, 1961)
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 07- March 8th
> >
> > Screening:       Alone, Life Wastes Andy Hardy (Martin Arnold, 15 min,
> > 1998)
> >                         Flicker: Unsteady Motion (Paula Frohele, 7 min,
> > 1995)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 08- March 15th
> >
> > Screening:       Frame (Ken Kobland, 10 min, 1976)
> >                         Vestibule (Ken Kobland, 24 min, 1979)
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 09- March 29th
> >
> > Screening:       Chinese Fire Drill (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1968)
> >                         Runs Good (Pat O’Neill, 15 min, 1970)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 10- April 5th
> >
> > Screening:       Elasticity (Chick Strand, 25 min, 1976)
> >                         Babobilicons (Dana Krummins, 18 min, 1982)
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 11- April 12th
> >
> > Screening:       Nocturne (Phil Solomon, 10 min, 1980)
> >                         Remains to be Seen (Phil Solomon, 17 min, 1989)
> >
> >
> > Class 12- April 19th
> >
> > Screening:       The Idea (Bill Knowland, 20 min, 1990)
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 13- April 26th
> >
> >
> > Screening:       Milk and Honey (Kate McCabe, 17 min, 2004)
> >
> >                         Montessori Sword Fight (Mary Beth Reed, 7 min,
> > 2002)
> >
> >
> >
> > Class 14- May 3rd
> >
> >
> > Screening:       Water and Power (Pat O’Neill, 54 min, 1989)
> >
> >
> > Jason Halprin
> > jihalprin at gmail.com<mailto:jihalprin at gmail.com <jihalprin at gmail.com?>>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Gene Youngblood
> > <atopia at comcast.net<mailto:atopia at comcast.net <atopia at comcast.net?>>> wrote:
> > I join Marcos and Adam in stressing the importance of Pat O’Neill here.
> > Optical printing doesn’t get any better if by that term we mean an art
> > form, an aesthetic practice, not a technique.  Another artist from Pat’s
> > generation known for his optical printing is Will Hindle
> >
> > From: Adam Hyman<mailto:adam at lafilmforum.org <adam at lafilmforum.org?>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 10:57 AM
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion
> > List<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com?>>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer
> >
> > The entire oeuvre of Pat O’Neill is essential, and very influential.
> >
> > We did a screening with a various of interesting optically printed films
> > as part of Alternative Projections.
> > http://www.alternativeprojections.com/screening-series/visions-memory-and-a-machine-optical-manipulations/
> >
> >
> > On 8/6/14 9:22 AM, "Gawthrop, Rob"
> > <Rob.Gawthrop at falmouth.ac.uk<mailto:Rob.Gawthrop at falmouth.ac.uk <Rob.Gawthrop at falmouth.ac.uk?>>> wrote:
> >
> > Monkey's Birthday, David Larcher; - colour separation, superimposition,
> > bi-packing etc.
> >
> > Slides, Annabel Nicholson; pulling film through the gate etc
> >
> > Film Sound, Andy Moss; short edits/loops (sound and picture),
> > superimpositions
> >
> > (all at LUX, London.)
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > From: Caryn Cline <carynycline at gmail.com<mailto:carynycline at gmail.com <carynycline at gmail.com?>>>
> > Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> > <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com?>>>
> > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:06:12 -0700
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> > <FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com <FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com?>>>
> > Subject: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer
> >
> > Dear Frameworkers,
> >
> > If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical
> > printer techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work
> > for understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there
> > any texts that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and
> > to take my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put
> > together a public screening at some point.
> >
> > Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.
> >
> > CC
> >
> >
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