[Ok-sus] Handicap transport

Miles, Karen karen.miles at deq.ok.gov
Fri Apr 4 18:18:46 UTC 2014


The problem isn't just lack of a vehicle. I've also had a problem with MetroLink which is supposed to be the curb-to-curb handicap van transport. A few years ago I made a reservation with MetroLink to go to the airport since I can't get my handicap scooter in my Jeep by myself. I made my reservation over a week in advance for my trip both to the airport and my return home from the airport. On the day of my ride to the airport, I was out in my driveway an hour beforehand (they said the be there 30 minutes prior). I waited for two hours and they never arrived! Since it was a Saturday, there wasn't anybody to reach by phone. I had to go door-to-door in my neighborhood to find somebody to help me load my scooter into my Jeep. Since I need to have my scooter to go places like a shopping mall, the zoo, or the State Fair, I end up not going to these places. Even if I did get a ride there, I don't want to risk getting stranded there since they didn't show up when I tried to use them. 

Karen

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I've seen that in my neighborhood also since there aren't any sidewalks. Since I have a scooter, I know how scary that is since people in cars only see other cars. When I last saw a man in a motorized scooter, it was almost dusk so that made it even more hazardous. I got behind him, put my blinkers on, and followed him until he was able to get off of Council Road.

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      NW Expressway (Bob Waldrop)
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 00:15:21 -0500
From: JM Branum <jmb at jmbzine.com>
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Bob,
cc: OKC City Council

Can I share this online? I think the public needs to know how our metro area cares so little for the needs of disabled veterans (or for that matter anyone else) in the NW Expressway corridor who do not have access to a car?

Thanks,
James M. Branum
Resident of NW OKC


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob at bobwaldrop.net> wrote:

> Dear Mayor, and Councilman Greiner, Councilman Shadid, and 
> Councilwoman Salyer,
>
> Mayor, you're on the list because you're the Mayor.
>
> Councilman Greiner, you're getting this because the man I met tonight 
> riding in his motorized wheelchair in the right lane of NW Expressway 
> eastbound, lives in your council district.
>
> Councilman Shadid, you speak for Oklahoma City's low income and 
> marginalized people.
>
> Councilwoman Salyer, I live in your district, in Gatewood.
>
> I was on my way home from my job as Director of Music at the Church of 
> the Epiphany on Britton west of Rockwell tonight after choir practice tonight.
> Traffic in the right lane was swerving around an obstruction in the 
> form of an elderly African American in a wheel chair.  This was by the 
> Golden Corral, which is actually in Warr Acres, but Mr. Smith lives in 
> OKC and started his journey from the Lyrewood and Wilshire 
> neighborhood in his motorized wheel chair. Why was he there? Well, as 
> he said, "Not really a good reason, lonely, at home, nobody to talk to, I just wanted to get out."
> I've attached two photos I took of the situation.
>
> Eddie is a disabled American veteran.  One day in 1968 he stepped on a 
> landmine in Vietnam and lost both his legs in combat.  So anyway, to 
> make a long story short, with the cooperation of the Warr Acres 
> police, we got a medical taxi and I paid the $50 for his fare back 
> home with some Catholic Worker money I am responsible for disbursing.
> So all's well that ended well tonight. . . except, what happens the 
> next time he gets lonely and wants to go out?
>
> The Warr Acres police office told a horrendous story about a women, 
> also in a wheel chair in the right lane of eastbound NW Expressway.
> She was hit by a car.  It knocked her from the street along the west 
> side of the Golden Corral all the way to the Church's Chicken place on 
> the far eastern side of Golden Corral. That must be at least 150 feet.
> She survived, "barely" the officer said.
>
> Northwest Expressway has zero pedestrian amenities from where it 
> starts, to where it exits Oklahoma City.  Not one inch of sidewalk. I 
> sometimes take the bus to work, and get off at Lyrewood and Wilshire, 
> and then I walk to 7336 West Britton Road.  It is a scary walk.
>
> I drive NW Expressway at least five days a week, two and from work, 
> and I see people walking all along its length all the time.  I've seen 
> people in wheel chairs trying to zoom across between McArthur and 
> Rockwell to get to the other side of the road, without any pedestrian 
> crosswalk to make their journey safer. A while back I followed another 
> guy in a wheel chair going north on Britton, with my hazard lights 
> flashing, until he turned onto a side street and then into the 
> driveway of an apartment building.  He waved at me when I pulled away, 
> glad for the shield.  I figured "well, they'll see me and my flashing 
> lights and that will protect him in his little wheelchair.
>
> A former ODOT employee told me that ODOT could get federal funds for 
> pedestrian amenities and sidewalks all along Northwest Expressway, but 
> this person  said that OKC has never asked for that kind of work.
> Another person told me she contacted her state senator, who contacted 
> ODOT, and he was supposedly told that ODOT didn't want to encourage 
> pedestrian traffic along NW Expressway so they would not install any pedestrian amenities.
>  Well, memo to ODOT: The pedestrians are already there, and are being 
> killed with some regularity.  A lot of the people walking along the 
> Expressway are kids.
>
> Northwest Expressway of course could cited in urban planning textbooks 
> as an example of "what happens when you do all the wrong urban things 
> in one corridor."  But does that mean we are never going to try to make it better?
>
> Some of you are proponents of spending $100 million on a downtown 
> trolley that would serve the upscale but you are dragging your feet on 
> responsible funding for a bus system that would serve others who 
> aren't such upscale people.
>
> Some of you are constantly bragging on Oklahoma City and all we are 
> accomplishing.
>
> We should remember this:
>
> Oklahoma City is a place where we care so little about disabled 
> American veterans, who have given so much at the call of their 
> country, that we don't provide responsible public transit, we don't 
> provide sidewalks and pedestrian amenities.
>
> We can fund a convention center and "rowing amenities"   -- but we have no
> money so that Eddie, who had the great misfortune to step on a land 
> mine while serving his country, can get around without exposing 
> himself to horrendous danger.  I am amazed to think that he made it 
> all the way from Lyrewood and Wilshire to east of MacArthur on 
> Northwest Expressway, in his little motorized wheelchair.  I am sad 
> that he couldn't take the bus and that there was no sidewalk for his wheelchair.
>
> It's possible, that if OKC and Warr Acres and Oklahoma County and our 
> state senators and representatives really put some pressure on ODOT, 
> they might do some work and it wouldn't cost the city taxpayers 
> directly anything.  But if y'all don't do anything, nothing will change.
>
> Bob Waldrop
> 1524 NW 21
> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
> 405-200-8155
>
>
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 08:14:04 -0500
From: Bob Waldrop <bob at bobwaldrop.net>
To: ok-sus at lists.oksustainability.org
Subject: Re: [Ok-sus] I met a man tonight riding in a motorized
	wheelchair on NW Expressway
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Sure, that's how we'll get things changed. "Make injustice visible" is one of my mottos.

rmw

On 4/3/2014 12:15 AM, JM Branum wrote:
> Bob,
> cc: OKC City Council
>
> Can I share this online? I think the public needs to know how our 
> metro area cares so little for the needs of disabled veterans (or for 
> that matter anyone else) in the NW Expressway corridor who do not have 
> access to a car?
>
> Thanks,
> James M. Branum
> Resident of NW OKC
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob at bobwaldrop.net 
> <mailto:bob at bobwaldrop.net>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Mayor, and Councilman Greicriminality, and peak oil.
>
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Subject: Re: [Ok-sus] I met a man tonight riding in a motorized
	wheelchair on NW Expressway
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Good for you, Bob!   There are too many places with no sidewalks anymore, and it is unsafe for children or anybody else who needs to get from place to place.   The streets are unsafe enough if you’re inside a motor vehicle, and there is little or no enforcement if a pedestrian, bicyclist or disabled person is hit.


Sylvia

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From: Bob Waldrop
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎2‎, ‎2014 ‎11‎:‎54‎ ‎PM
To: mayor at okc.gov; ward1 at okc.gov; ward2 at okc.gov; ward6 at okc.gov; okc at lists.sustainableokc.org; ok-sus at lists.oksustainability.org

Dear Mayor, and Councilman Greiner, Councilman Shadid, and Councilwoman Salyer,

Mayor, you're on the list because you're the Mayor.

Councilman Greiner, you're getting this because the man I met tonight riding in his motorized wheelchair in the right lane of NW Expressway eastbound, lives in your council district.

Councilman Shadid, you speak for Oklahoma City's low income and marginalized people.

Councilwoman Salyer, I live in your district, in Gatewood.

I was on my way home from my job as Director of Music at the Church of the Epiphany on Britton west of Rockwell tonight after choir practice tonight. Traffic in the right lane was swerving around an obstruction in the form of an elderly African American in a wheel chair.  This was by the Golden Corral, which is actually in Warr Acres, but Mr. Smith lives in OKC and started his journey from the Lyrewood and Wilshire neighborhood in his motorized wheel chair. Why was he there? Well, as he said, "Not really a good reason, lonely, at home, nobody to talk to, I just wanted to get out." I've attached two photos I took of the situation.

Eddie is a disabled American veteran.  One day in 1968 he stepped on a landmine in Vietnam and lost both his legs in combat.  So anyway, to make a long story short, with the cooperation of the Warr Acres police, we got a medical taxi and I paid the $50 for his fare back home with some Catholic Worker money I am responsible for disbursing.  So all's well that ended well tonight. . . except, what happens the next time he gets lonely and wants to go out?

The Warr Acres police office told a horrendous story about a women, also in a wheel chair in the right lane of eastbound NW Expressway. She was hit by a car.  It knocked her from the street along the west side of the Golden Corral all the way to the Church's Chicken place on the far eastern side of Golden Corral. That must be at least 150 feet.  She survived, "barely" the officer said.

Northwest Expressway has zero pedestrian amenities from where it starts, to where it exits Oklahoma City.  Not one inch of sidewalk. I sometimes take the bus to work, and get off at Lyrewood and Wilshire, and then I walk to 7336 West Britton Road.  It is a scary walk.

I drive NW Expressway at least five days a week, two and from work, and I see people walking all along its length all the time.  I've seen people in wheel chairs trying to zoom across between McArthur and Rockwell to get to the other side of the road, without any pedestrian crosswalk to make their journey safer. A while back I followed another guy in a wheel chair going north on Britton, with my hazard lights flashing, until he turned onto a side street and then into the driveway of an apartment building.  He waved at me when I pulled away, glad for the shield.  I figured "well, they'll see me and my flashing lights and that will protect him in his little wheelchair.

A former ODOT employee told me that ODOT could get federal funds for pedestrian amenities and sidewalks all along Northwest Expressway, but this person  said that OKC has never asked for that kind of work.  
Another person told me she contacted her state senator, who contacted ODOT, and he was supposedly told that ODOT didn't want to encourage pedestrian traffic along NW Expressway so they would not install any pedestrian amenities.  Well, memo to ODOT: The pedestrians are already there, and are being killed with some regularity.  A lot of the people walking along the Expressway are kids.

Northwest Expressway of course could cited in urban planning textbooks as an example of "what happens when you do all the wrong urban things in one corridor."  But does that mean we are never going to try to make it better?

Some of you are proponents of spending $100 million on a downtown trolley that would serve the upscale but you are dragging your feet on responsible funding for a bus system that would serve others who aren't such upscale people.

Some of you are constantly bragging on Oklahoma City and all we are accomplishing.

We should remember this:

Oklahoma City is a place where we care so little about disabled American veterans, who have given so much at the call of their country, that we don't provide responsible public transit, we don't provide sidewalks and pedestrian amenities.

We can fund a convention center and "rowing amenities"   -- but we have 
no money so that Eddie, who had the great misfortune to step on a land mine while serving his country, can get around without exposing himself to horrendous danger.  I am amazed to think that he made it all the way from Lyrewood and Wilshire to east of MacArthur on Northwest Expressway, in his little motorized wheelchair.  I am sad that he couldn't take the bus and that there was no sidewalk for his wheelchair.

It's possible, that if OKC and Warr Acres and Oklahoma County and our state senators and representatives really put some pressure on ODOT, they might do some work and it wouldn't cost the city taxpayers directly anything.  But if y'all don't do anything, nothing will change.

Bob Waldrop
1524 NW 21
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
405-200-8155
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 21:54:52 -0500
From: Rena Guay <peacearena at gmail.com>
To: Bob Waldrop <bob at bobwaldrop.net>
Cc: "okc at lists.sustainableokc.org" <okc at lists.sustainableokc.org>,
	mayor at okc.gov, ward1 at okc.gov, ward6 at okc.gov,
	"ok-sus at lists.oksustainability.org"
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	wheelchair on NW Expressway
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I concur with Mr. Waldrop's comments, but it's not just NW Expressway. I have observed a motorized wheelchair trying to navigate 59th Street S near Walker, and an elderly man on a frail looking bike loaded with full grocery bags traveling on 13th St N near the 235 overpass (don't get me started on food deserts). Those are just the ones that particularly stood out to me.
It would not take anyone long to run across other examples on any given day, because that's just how OKC is for the people who don't "matter" when those who do have their eyes focused on the top floors of Devon tower and what that represents.

This is the sad and hopeless way of life for many in OKC. Simply and clearly, this city does not care about anyone who is not wealthy and/or well-connected. When resources to change things are available, but rejected because the people who would benefit are dispensable -- or worse, their presence is not desirable -- we all lose a bit of our humanity.

I live in Ward 2.

Rena Guay


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob at bobwaldrop.net> wrote:

> Dear Mayor, and Councilman Greiner, Councilman Shadid, and 
> Councilwoman Salyer,
>
> Mayor, you're on the list because you're the Mayor.
>
> Councilman Greiner, you're getting this because the man I met tonight 
> riding in his motorized wheelchair in the right lane of NW Expressway 
> eastbound, lives in your council district.
>
> Councilman Shadid, you speak for Oklahoma City's low income and 
> marginalized people.
>
> Councilwoman Salyer, I live in your district, in Gatewood.
>
> I was on my way home from my job as Director of Music at the Church of 
> the Epiphany on Britton west of Rockwell tonight after choir practice tonight.
> Traffic in the right lane was swerving around an obstruction in the 
> form of an elderly African American in a wheel chair.  This was by the 
> Golden Corral, which is actually in Warr Acres, but Mr. Smith lives in 
> OKC and started his journey from the Lyrewood and Wilshire 
> neighborhood in his motorized wheel chair. Why was he there? Well, as 
> he said, "Not really a good reason, lonely, at home, nobody to talk to, I just wanted to get out."
> I've attached two photos I took of the situation.
>
> Eddie is a disabled American veteran.  One day in 1968 he stepped on a 
> landmine in Vietnam and lost both his legs in combat.  So anyway, to 
> make a long story short, with the cooperation of the Warr Acres 
> police, we got a medical taxi and I paid the $50 for his fare back 
> home with some Catholic Worker money I am responsible for disbursing.  
> So all's well that ended well tonight. . . except, what happens the 
> next time he gets lonely and wants to go out?
>
> The Warr Acres police office told a horrendous story about a women, 
> also in a wheel chair in the right lane of eastbound NW Expressway. 
> She was hit by a car.  It knocked her from the street along the west 
> side of the Golden Corral all the way to the Church's Chicken place on 
> the far eastern side of Golden Corral. That must be at least 150 feet.  
> She survived, "barely" the officer said.
>
> Northwest Expressway has zero pedestrian amenities from where it 
> starts, to where it exits Oklahoma City.  Not one inch of sidewalk. I 
> sometimes take the bus to work, and get off at Lyrewood and Wilshire, 
> and then I walk to 7336 West Britton Road.  It is a scary walk.
>
> I drive NW Expressway at least five days a week, two and from work, 
> and I see people walking all along its length all the time.  I've seen 
> people in wheel chairs trying to zoom across between McArthur and 
> Rockwell to get to the other side of the road, without any pedestrian 
> crosswalk to make their journey safer. A while back I followed another 
> guy in a wheel chair going north on Britton, with my hazard lights 
> flashing, until he turned onto a side street and then into the 
> driveway of an apartment building.  He waved at me when I pulled away, 
> glad for the shield.  I figured "well, they'll see me and my flashing 
> lights and that will protect him in his little wheelchair.
>
> A former ODOT employee told me that ODOT could get federal funds for 
> pedestrian amenities and sidewalks all along Northwest Expressway, but 
> this person  said that OKC has never asked for that kind of work.  
> Another person told me she contacted her state senator, who contacted 
> ODOT, and he was supposedly told that ODOT didn't want to encourage 
> pedestrian traffic along NW Expressway so they would not install any pedestrian amenities.
>  Well, memo to ODOT: The pedestrians are already there, and are being 
> killed with some regularity.  A lot of the people walking along the 
> Expressway are kids.
>
> Northwest Expressway of course could cited in urban planning textbooks 
> as an example of "what happens when you do all the wrong urban things 
> in one corridor."  But does that mean we are never going to try to make it better?
>
> Some of you are proponents of spending $100 million on a downtown 
> trolley that would serve the upscale but you are dragging your feet on 
> responsible funding for a bus system that would serve others who 
> aren't such upscale people.
>
> Some of you are constantly bragging on Oklahoma City and all we are 
> accomplishing.
>
> We should remember this:
>
> Oklahoma City is a place where we care so little about disabled 
> American veterans, who have given so much at the call of their 
> country, that we don't provide responsible public transit, we don't 
> provide sidewalks and pedestrian amenities.
>
> We can fund a convention center and "rowing amenities"   -- but we have no
> money so that Eddie, who had the great misfortune to step on a land 
> mine while serving his country, can get around without exposing 
> himself to horrendous danger.  I am amazed to think that he made it 
> all the way from Lyrewood and Wilshire to east of MacArthur on 
> Northwest Expressway, in his little motorized wheelchair.  I am sad 
> that he couldn't take the bus and that there was no sidewalk for his wheelchair.
>
> It's possible, that if OKC and Warr Acres and Oklahoma County and our 
> state senators and representatives really put some pressure on ODOT, 
> they might do some work and it wouldn't cost the city taxpayers 
> directly anything.  But if y'all don't do anything, nothing will change.
>
> Bob Waldrop
> 1524 NW 21
> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
> 405-200-8155
>
>
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