[Ok-sus] Deborah Dalton Don't Despair!

Bob Waldrop bwaldrop1952 at att.net
Fri Oct 31 17:42:29 UTC 2014


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On 10/31/2014 11:34 AM, Harlan Hentges wrote:
>
> Here in Oklahoma, if power goes out, sewer doesn’t work, no ambulance 
> or police, car is destroyed, no grocery store and we’re living in a 
> make-shift shelter, we call it a natural DISASTER.  For 2.5 billion 
> people who live on less than $2/day, that’s just another ordinary day 
> like every day for millennia.
>
> Changing circumstances are not reasons to despair, but to think smart, 
> work hard and do the right thing which for me includes faith and prayer.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Harlan Hentges
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> *From:*Ok-sus [mailto:ok-sus-bounces at lists.oksustainability.org] *On 
> Behalf Of *Dalton, Deborah W.
> *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2014 10:45 AM
> *To:* ok-sus at lists.oksustainability.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ok-sus] What do you think of cloned beef?
>
> This is in effect trying to improve the fabric in the deck chairs on 
> the Titanic (on the first class deck). Given the catastrophic global 
> issues that face us this is the last thing on earth we should be 
> doing...improving a luxury item that has a huge contribution to 
> greenhouse gasses is nuts. "They" will start telling us this is how we 
> will feed 9-11 billion people...NOT.
>
> My fundamental question is how does one ride down a major contraction 
> if not the collapse of civilization while keeping ones feet on the 
> ground and trying not to succumb to despair?
>
> Deborah W. Dalton
>
> Professor and Director
>
> Interdisciplinary perspectives on the Environment
>
> 630 Parrington Oval
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> Monnet Hall 556
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> 325-3828
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> dalton at ou.edu <mailto:dalton at ou.edu>
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> *From:*Ok-sus [ok-sus-bounces at lists.oksustainability.org] on behalf of 
> Paulette Rink [stickhorse at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2014 9:00 AM
> *To:* ok-sus at lists.oksustainability.org 
> <mailto:ok-sus at lists.oksustainability.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ok-sus] What do you think of cloned beef?
>
> I know that my customers will not touch the stuff with a ten foot 
> pole. If GMO's are on their Satan list,  then I suspect Cloning will 
> be right next to it, if not in front.
>
> For what reason do we need this wonderful meat? So fast food joints 
> can say they have prime hamburgers? They ride the black angus shirt 
> tail now.  And its still proven to be crap food. Maybe they think it 
> will cure the hunger crisis? Most people don't understand that our 
> below poverty cant afford real food now, they eat empty calories, and 
> are still hungry. But lets not focus on producing real food for real 
> people and show them how to maintain healthy eating habits. Lets spend 
> our efforts cloning livestock to produce meat that's not needed. 
> There's plenty of meat in the USA and the people who really need it 
> don't care if its prime or not, just if they can afford to eat it.
>
> Personally, I think is against all things natural in life. It doesn't 
> really do anything for the food system and underlay ridicules. But 
> lets give them a pat on the backs for creating something God couldn't 
> seem to do. Incase you didn't catch the sarcasm in that last statement 
> let me spell it out. NOT!!!! Down off my soap box now.
>
> Paulette Rink
>
> Rowdy Stickhorse
>
> Growers of real food for real people
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Harlan Hentges 
> <harlan at organiclawyers.com <mailto:harlan at organiclawyers.com>> wrote:
>
>     A professor at West Texas A&M University found a beef carcass of
>     unusually high quality (prime yield grade 1). Only .03 % of the
>     beef population has this quality. The carcass was cloned producing
>     four fertile animals, one male and three female. The goal is for
>     the off-spring to become a new cattle breed with very high quality
>     carcasses.  Any thoughts regarding sustainability?
>
>     WTAMU students with cloned bulls
>
>     _Progressive Cattleman - West Texas A&M University project clones
>     YG1 carcass
>     <http://www.progressivecattle.com/topics/reproduction/6498-west-texas-a-m-university-project-clones-yg1-carcass>_
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